Sean talks with journalist David Wallace-Wells about a looming climate event that could make 2027 one of the hottest years ever recorded. They discuss the return of El Niño, why some scientists are calling it a “Godzilla El Niño,” and what it could reveal about the future of global warming. They also explore climate adaptation, political complacency, extreme weather, technological progress, and whether humanity is prepared for the world it’s creating.
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Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling)
Guest: David Wallace-Wells (@dwallacewells)
00:00 Intro
01:41 What is El Niño?
04:45 Why is this El Niño different?
13:18 2027 could be a preview of the next decade
19:23 What could spur climate action?
28:20 How much more vulnerable will we become?
32:38 What climate adaptation looks like
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