The Atrocities That Shaped the Modern Middle East | The David Frum Show
On this week’s episode of “The David Frum Show,” The Atlantic’s David Frum opens with a discussion of the seemingly forgotten attack on the Yazidi people by ISIS in 2014.
Then, David is joined by historian Simon Sebag Montefiore to discuss his new book, “The Cauldron: The Making of the Modern Middle East.” David and Simon discuss how much of the modern Middle East emerged from the ruins of the Ottoman Empire and the violence that has ensued since the empire’s collapse. David and Simon discuss how, one after another, different language groups and religious groups were pushed into exile or eliminated altogether.
Then, David finishes with a discussion of “The Hidden Hand: The Information War and the Rise of Antisemitic Propaganda” by Warren Kinsella.
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00:00 Cold Open
00:20 Introduction
01:46 Yazidi Genocide
05:05 Israel As Exception
06:15 Simon Sebag Montefiore
08:18 Ottoman Mosaic 1890
11:27 Armenians Targeted
13:21 Tanzimat Reforms
17:45 Young Turks Genocide
22:46 Local Imperialism
26:10 Greeks And Smyrna
28:38 Erdogan And Legacy
37:23 Farhud Pogrom 1941
45:50 Israel, Turkey, Pakistan
51:12 Genocide Word Debased
55:12 "The Hidden Hand"
Then, David is joined by historian Simon Sebag Montefiore to discuss his new book, “The Cauldron: The Making of the Modern Middle East.” David and Simon discuss how much of the modern Middle East emerged from the ruins of the Ottoman Empire and the violence that has ensued since the empire’s collapse. David and Simon discuss how, one after another, different language groups and religious groups were pushed into exile or eliminated altogether.
Then, David finishes with a discussion of “The Hidden Hand: The Information War and the Rise of Antisemitic Propaganda” by Warren Kinsella.
Sign up for David Frum’s newsletter alert to find out when a new story is published: https://www.theatlantic.com/author/david-frum/?follow=true&utm_campaign=frum-yt
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00:00 Cold Open
00:20 Introduction
01:46 Yazidi Genocide
05:05 Israel As Exception
06:15 Simon Sebag Montefiore
08:18 Ottoman Mosaic 1890
11:27 Armenians Targeted
13:21 Tanzimat Reforms
17:45 Young Turks Genocide
22:46 Local Imperialism
26:10 Greeks And Smyrna
28:38 Erdogan And Legacy
37:23 Farhud Pogrom 1941
45:50 Israel, Turkey, Pakistan
51:12 Genocide Word Debased
55:12 "The Hidden Hand"
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