In this episode of “The David Frum Show,” The Atlantic’s David Frum opens with his thoughts on Trump’s new Iran deal and how it affects the future of the Republican Party and J. D. Vance’s presidential aspirations. David discusses the predicament that Vance finds himself in as the administration’s most vocal Iran War skeptic.
Then, David is joined by CNN’s Patrick Oppmann, who has been reporting from Cuba since 2012. Patrick and David discuss the current state of the country, the pressure that the Trump administration is putting on the ruling regime, and whether or not America will invade Cuba.
Finally, David ends the episode with a discussion of Shakespeare’s “Othello” and how ancient plays can emancipate readers from some of their modern prejudices.
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00:00 Introduction
01:34 Making Vance Own Iran Deal
02:15 Trump Weakness Opens 2028
03:49 Why Same Party Handoffs Fail
06:43 Patrick Oppmann
07:28 Reporting Amid Blackouts
12:49 Safety and Rising Crime in Cuba
17:55 How Cuba Reached the Brink
24:28 Hunger Rations and Misery
32:05 State Economy Dead End
35:34 US Intervention in Cuba?
41:14 Deportations and Florida Politics
46:06 Race, Class, and Exile Resentment
55:46 "Othello"